Volkswagen RNS 510 Microphone Connection for voice control

Adding a microphone to the RNS 510 to enable voice control is a simple process and there are a number of ways to go about it.

vw_rns_510_microphone_connectionOption 1 – use the factory microphone as used in the Skoda bluetooth kit

The factory microphone is fitted in the overhead console and run to the rear of the RNS 510 (green highlighted connectors).

Parts Required

  • 1 x 3B0 035 711 B41 (3B0035711B41) – Microphone – Satin Black
  • 1 x 8D0 972 643 (8D0972643) – 2 Pin Housing
    • 1 x 000 979 017 (000979017) – Repair Wire 0.5mm
  • 1 x 3B7 035 447 B (3B7035447B) – 12 Pin Green Housing
    • 1 x 000 979 009 (000979009) – Repair Wire 0.5mm
  • 3m of microphone cable
    • 2 core 14/.020 shielded cable (DRAKA DE FLRYWBYM 0.5-A+0.5-A is suitable) or
    • RG174 with 2mm and 3mm heat shrink tubing.
    • The 2 core cable is the easiest to connect you don’t need to heatshrink the shield and use it as the ground.

Install the microphone into the overhead compartment. Join the microphone wire to the 2 pin housing and route via the A pillar to the rear of the RNS 510 and connect to pins 1 and 7. The repair wires are cut into two giving you two pins. Ensure you have the polarity correct!

Option 2 – use the factory microphone that is used with the Skoda bluetooth kit

This routes the cable from the microphone to the RNS 510 (green highlighted connectors) and from the RNS 510 (purple highlighted connectors) to the bluetooth instead of it running from the microphone directely to the bluetooth unit.

Parts Required

  • 2 x 000 979 009 (000979009) – Repair Wire 0.5mm
  • 3m of microphone cable
    • 2 core 14/.020 shielded cable (DRAKA DE FLRYWBYM 0.5-A+0.5-A is suitable) or
    • RG174 with 2mm and 3mm heat shrink tubing.
    • The 2 core cable is the easiest to connect you don’t need to heatshrink the shield and use it as the ground.

Cut the existing microphone cable around 5cm back from the Skoda bluetooth connector and route this to the rear of the RNS 510 along with one end of the microphone cable. The cable from the microphone is trimmed to the correct length and connected to the repair wire that has been cut into two. Keep the length of the repair wire as short as possible (under 5cm) to maintain the shielding. This cable connects to pins 1 and 7.

The new cable that you also have behind the RNS 510 is connected to repair wire cut in two and pins 4 and 9 and the other end after being trimmed is connected where you cut off the microphone cable at the Skoda bluetooth connector. Ensure you have the polarity correct!

Option 3 – use a 3rd party microphone (not tested nor has this been documented)

  • 1 x 3B7 035 447 B (3B7035447B) – 12 Pin Green Housing
    • 1 x 000 979 009 (000979009) – Repair Wire 0.5mm
  • 1-3m of microphone cable depending on microphone location

Install the microphone, connect to the microphone wire and route to the rear of the RNS 510 and connect to pins 1 and 7. The repair wire is cut into two giving you two pins. Ensure you have the polarity correct!

After the hardware has been sorted coding is required on the head unit using Vagcom/VCDS.

Open controller 37 and click on coding.

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Click on Long Coding Helper

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Select Byte 3 and Bit 1 to enable Microphone Diagnostics (not essential but will alert you to problems with Microphone)

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Finally deselect Byte 7 and Bit 1 to enable voice control and save the settings.

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Multi Function Steering Wheel – Voice activation (optional)

If you car is fitted with the Multi Function Steering Wheel you can modify the mute button (* on the VW models) to activate the voice feature. This will not work if you have the Skoda car kit as this uses the mute buttone (*) for it’s voice dialling, no workaround has been found at this time so use the top right hand button adjacant to the dvd slot to active the feature.

Controller 16 – Steering

Select Coding 07 and you should see a 7 digit softcode which will be in the format 00xxxxx

The 4th digit from the right corresponds to the steering wheel variant. If you have a 4 spoke Multi Function Steering Wheel without the Cruise Control buttons it should be a 2. Change this to a 3 and that should convert your Mute button to activate the Voice Dialling.

Software version 0101 or lower

0?xxxxxVehicle Type

  • 0 = Normal
  • 1 = Special Purpose (e.g Taxi)

0x?xxxxTransmission

  • 0 = Manual Transmission
  • 1 = Automatic Transmission

0xx?xxxSteering Wheel

  • 0 = Steering Wheel without Multifunction
  • 1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel without Multifunction
  • 2 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction without Cruise & Voice Control
  • 3 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction with Cruise & Voice Control

0xxx?xxAdditional Equipment

  • +1 = Tiptronic (Shift Paddels)

0xxxx?xBoard Computer / Cruise Control System (CCS)

  • 0 = w/o Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
  • 1 = with Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
  • 2 = w/o Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
  • 4 = with Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)

0xxxxx?Rear Wiper

  • 1 = Rear Wiper not installed
  • 2 = Rear Wiper installed

Software version 0110 or higher

0?xxxxxDriver-Assistance-Systems

  • 0 = Driver-Assistance-Systems not installed
  • 0 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems active w/o Button
  • 1 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems inactive w/o Button
  • 2 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems active with Button
  • 3 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems inactive with Button

0x?xxxxVehicle Type

  • 0 = Normal
  • 1 = Special Purpose with Multi-Function Control Module (Steer. Column. Contr. Mod. as Master)
  • 2 = Special Purpose with Multi-Function Control Module (Multi-Function Contr. Mod. as Master)

0xx?xxxTransmission

  • 0 = Manual Transmission
  • 1 = Automatic Transmission

0xxx?xxMulti-Function Steering Wheel

  • 0 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel not installed
  • 5 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and w/o Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
  • 6 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and no Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
  • 7 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
  • 8 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed

0xxxx?xCruise Control System (CCS) and Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)

  • 0 = Cruise Control System (CCS) not installed
  • 1 = Cruise Control System (CCS) with 6 Positions via separate Stalk installed
  • 2 = Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with 6 Positions via separate Stalk installed
  • 3 = Cruise Control System (CCS) with 4 Positions via Blinker Stallk installed
  • 4 = Cruise Control System (CCS) via Multi-Function Steering Wheel installed
  • 5 = Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) via Multi-Function Steering Wheel installed

0xxxxx?Rear Wiper and Board Computer

  • 1 = Rear Wiper not installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk not installed
  • 2 = Rear Wiper installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk not installed
  • 3 = Rear Wiper not installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk verbaut
  • 4 = Rear Wiper installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk installed

86 thoughts on “Volkswagen RNS 510 Microphone Connection for voice control”

  1. Where can I get the lugs from to solder on to the wire and push into the connector, Dick smith? – Part no? Also what wire spec should I buy? Great website Mav

    1. No, you need to source them through the service department of your VW dealer in Australia and most other countries. I’ll be posting a how to guide along with the parts required and the costs in the next few days.

  2. I’ve got this working using a Nokia microfone but the voice control is not so good…not has good as the premium bluetooth so it may be the microfone that is not has good has oem.

    Darren

  3. I just wanted to check if I am right, I have skoda bluetooth I gather I just get two repair wires and bridge from purple to the green then it works???

  4. I have the Premium VW Carkit (factory installed) in my Passat ’08. Voice control on the RNS510 isn’t visible (works for calling as before). Do I need to activate voice control as well with VCDS? And do I need to connect a mic to the RNS510 or can I use the Premium carkit mic?
    Thanks for your support Mav and the great website!

    1. Thanks Marco, you need to change the coding of the RNS 510 for voice control and reroute your microphone to the unit. I’ll have more details on this in the next day or two, almost got all the parts required and the additional wire specs sorted out.

    2. Hi Marco,

      Can you please tell me if you got all this working? I’m curious how you have done it and i thought to have seen you’re from the netherlands. That would make it a lot easier for me to understand.

      Looking forward.

      Thanks

  5. I see you have posted some part numbers in other areas now. If I want to use my existing BT mic do I just need to pick up 4x 000979009 from my dealer? Hopefully they are long enough to do the joins under my seat by the BT unit? Many Thanks for all the info.

  6. Hi There,

    This morning my dealer edited the microphone including the repair wire etc.

    After that he coded the car changing the 3th byte en 7th byte…..the only problem then was, that the official Skoda delaer couldn’t change the BIT…..so the bytes are changed, but he didn’t have an option to change the BITS.

    My dealer doesn’t use VAGCOM of VCDS but their own selfdiagnostic programs which is used by all VW, SKoda en Seat dealers in the Netherlands.

    Voicecommand isn’t activated yet but the bytes are changed now.

    I do have a new problem….in my maxidot i don’t have navigation and audio info anymore….is that because of the changes in bytes 3 and 7?

    Is there anyone who knows how i can activate my voicecommand by my dealer and reactivate my maxidot navigation and audio info?

    Thanx!

    1. It should be fine, it’s just a little bulkier. Jaycar has 24/.20 for $2.95 a metre. They also have the RG174 cable as well.

  7. Thanks Maverick. I’ll try another Jaycar then – VW said my repair wires might not be available till Monday anyway now so I guess I’ve got time to shop around. Loving this website btw, received my micro-can this morning so will be trying out some of your other mods over the weekend.

  8. Hi Maverick,
    Do you know whether I can get my MFD to display my bluetooth again, its disappeared after installing 2660, though the phone still works I just cannot see who is calling and the phonebook etc on the red screen?
    Is there a VAG coding for that? Is that what byte 7 bit 7 is?
    Brilliant info by the way.
    Thanks

  9. How do I ensure I have the polarity right – I have searched both your site and the forums but have not been able to locate the pin info for the bluetooth unit. The microphone was connected to pins 11 and 12 but which is +/- and does polarity really matter since this system only has 1 mic?

    1. The only difference is that in option 1 you have the Skoda bluetooth installed and in option 2 you don’t have the Skoda bluetooth installed. They work in exactly the same way except that the voice dialing commands on option 1 are accessible via a button on the RNS 510 and on option 2 available via the steering wheel if you have the MFSW (multi function steering wheel) fitted as the bluetooth voice control used the MFSW by default.

  10. Has anyone noticed voice tags not working properly with the iPhone 3G, using firmware 2660? Strangely, it works whilst the voice tags are set up with the unit on…but when I turn the RNS510 off then on again, I get a ‘new phonebook downloaded’ message and the voice tags disappear. Are voice tags for the telephone not stored on the RNS510?

  11. Hi all,

    How useful do people find the voice control? I have re-wired the mic through the rns510 and find the voice control pretty hit and miss with the bluetooth dialling (with voice tags created for names), to the point where there is no point for me with this. When I listen to a voice tag I have created for a name, there is a slight hiss in the background…not overly loud…just checking if this is normal for others? I am just looking to make sure this is not interference, but normal. The mic functions fine and the person I am calling hears me loud and clear though!

    Where the voice control comes into it’s own for me is with the navigation. Now that I find very good and quite effective!

    Anyone have any thoughts on it?

  12. Hi,
    I have installed new firmware and a new microfon to its original place. I can use voice control. But my problem, I can’t control voice command from the wheel. Is there anything I can do, a code? 08 passat with MFSW

  13. Hi

    Hello, How can I get the mute button (star button) work with the RNS 510, after I change the unit the Star button not work, I change # 2 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction without Cruise & Voice Control to
    # 3 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction with Cruise & Voice Control

    and after that when I press the star button the route navigation talk to me where to drive, and I can take the volum up to the navigation sound. But if I take it back its not work at all, the Mute button work with my old RCD 300, but after I change the player to RNS 510 its not work at all, and now I change back to RCD 300 its not work anymore here to, someone now where I code it right to rns510???=) hope some can help me here

    cheers,
    Andy

  14. Maverick,
    What a brilliant site.
    I’ll get back after i recieve mt 118 TSI comfortline fitted with DSG,RNS510, Rev camer and park assist.
    Delivery FEB2010.

  15. I have retrofitted a Nokia (rSap type) premium bluetooth to RNS and the mic is already routed to Pin 1&7. Do i still need to route pin 4&9 to the bluetooth controller.

    I have not re-code controller 37 yet but i think it should work without the need to route pin 4&9. Appreciate your advice.

  16. You can buy the original microphone on ebay for around £14 delivered. The centre black wire is the positive connection and the outer of the coaxial cable is the negative. This has a blue sheath on it.

  17. Hei
    I retrofitted a bluetooth set today in my Skoda Superb 2009 Greenline.
    It’s a 1Z0 035 729 C unit (Skoda set with original microphone and “plug and play” harness.
    (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170376495781)

    Most works fine with white dot matrix, activating phone, numberpad, phonebook sync etc. (coded for my car from seller)
    There’s two things that DON’T work:
    1. Microphone – Do I need to activate microphone somehow with VAG-COM coding? I checked cables with multimeter, and wiring seemes ok.

    2. A2DP – BT Audio cannot be selected on my Bolero media menu (grayed out), even when I activate from setup menu. Also coding problem?

    Thanx for any help!

    Dave

  18. Hello,
    I have Passat CC, 2008 with RNS 510C, software 2660. Voice contol is not possible start from Steering Wheel, it is possible only from navigation (button star). Can You help me?

    Thank You very much.

  19. hello, i installed the fiscon bluetooth with an extra microfone for the voice control on pin 1 and 7, but mine microfone for the phone doesn’t work. Has anyone a installation instruction for the fiscon and voicecontrol? Thanks 🙂

  20. In my Touareg (2007) we are installed the BT kit (ver: 029 D) next to an RNS-510 (A). Everything works fine, but not perfect. So I have 3 minor problems:

    1. The phone button on the steering wheel doesn’t works. This is an afterbuyed item, phisically working but don’t activate anything.

    2. The Star button works, but activates not the BT from RNS 510, rather then its own voice system. I found a solution but can’t try it (don’t have VAG-COM 🙁 )

    3. Nobody can tell me that this unit can show the phone menu on the central MFD. With an other unit (NOIKA…) I saw this menu in an other Treg…

    I feel I must by a VAG-COM to play with the car… 🙂

    Sorry for my English…

    Tom
    Hungary

    1. In relation to question number 1. The phone button doesn’t work as this only works with the fixed car kit with cradle.

    2. Hello everybody,

      Does anybody knows how to pair iPhone 3GS with Bluetooth premium car cit with Rsap?
      Thanks for instructions.

  21. The part number for the 2 pin housing to connect to the Mic is wrong, bought all the part from vw and the plug and repair wire are wrong

  22. Have just gone through ETKA. the correct P/T No are: 1J0 973 119 2pin flat contact housing corresponding to P/T No 1J0 973 332 which is the plug that come on the VW Mic P/T No 3B0 035 711B. The repair wire needed is 000 979 131

  23. Can I use my Fiscon kit microphone to do this? I can easily tap a couple of wires into the mic cable and connect them to pins 1 and 7 on the connector.

    It would be much easier to only have 1 mic instead of 2.

    1. No, the specifications of the fiscon microphone differ from the VW oem one. (clarification: it will work but the sound quality will be poor)

  24. I’d already hacked it apart and soldered it together before I read your reply – so I tried it anyway!
    The answer is YES it does work – but it makes the Ficon mic quality pretty poop!

    I played with it for a while – but the Voice Control seems like a bit of a gimmick, so I’ve removed it and made my Fiscon call quality excellent again.

    So if anyone wants to try option 3 – I can confirm that it works… although using the Mic split between the RNS and something else is likely to result in poor sound quality.

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  26. Can anybody verify the part number of the microphone (from option #1)? I’ve searched on serveral vw dealer websites, and it isn’t coming up. I already have a Kufatec kit installed, but since they use a passive mic and vw uses an active mic, I know they won’t work together. I’d like to add a second mike up in the console (may require some playing around, but I think there is room on the drivers side.

      1. Also, that microphone is about $65-$90 US, depending upon the dealer. That’s just for the microphone, not including shipping, or the housing, repair wires, etc. I found two sources for the microphone and assembled harness. One is fiscon-mobile.de. They sell the kit for €39 plus shipping. You can also go on ebay and do a search for “Sprachbedienung SDS Mikrofon RNS”. That should bring up Car-systems.pl’s page with the same item. They sell it for €39 shipped (€29 for the product, €10 for the shipping). I’ve never personally dealt with them before, but I see their stuff all the time online. I decided to take a chance and ordered the kit, which after shipping comes to $55 USD at todays exchange rate. Not great, but better than the $65 just for the microphone at the dealer.

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